TW 2-13 Exit Wounds
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beccaelizabethHave watched Exit Wounds.
... I needed a break to make sad-Weevil noises after 2-06. I need a looooong weevil-woe break after this one.
Sad!
Owen! Tosh!
Toshiko's last words were about Owen both in person and on the video. The video is extra sad cause it hopes for things and we know how it worked out.
It's awkward, because I'm all sad like the scene wants me to be, but I always wished Tosh would just get over it and get confident and the whole thing with Owen never helped with that.
Glowy atomic zombie Owen would be fun.
... not for bystanders, obviously, but aside from that...
The thing with having watched it so many times is I can totally ignore the plot holes and Doesn't Work Like Thats and just get caught up in the sad noise inducing stuff.
Also, Jack freezing Gray is progress compared to Adrift, specially since someone suggests killings and he gets fierce about no killing, but it's not terribly helpful, all in all.
I realised something on this watch I hadn't thought of before. If buried!Jack is on auto defrost then he defrosted during the Year That Never Was. If the Master completely nuked the Hub then buried!Jack would become vaporised!Jack and wake much earlier. If the Master just concrete filled it then buried!Jack would be, well, worse buried. But most likely the Hub was just empty, and buried!Jack had to not cross his own timeline and not get caught and... still have possibilities going on in the background.
... heeeere, bunny bunny bunny...
My main plot bunny after watching 2-13 is the one I writ a first draft of already. There's a plot hole that isn't a plot hole, going on around Owen. They have at least one vortex manipulator that works, the Rift Manipulator that Captain John can apparently steer, and the Doctor's phone number. Why could they not go back for Owen? Well, because the machines saw Owen get glow in the dark and fry. But Owen said 'slowly', so maybe there's a gap between then and actual dead-dead. Also? Owen is a zombie. dead-dead might not happen at all. In which case he's sitting there in the dark being really fucking bored and possibly trying to figure out if he is in fact dead because being alone in the dark is how that was described too. I dislike this idea, yet it nags once it is thought of. So, basically, there's a story to be written that is about *not* using time travel to save someone, and how people can live with themselves about that. And it's a basic Time Agent story, something they've all had to deal with, because time travel involves either destroying the universe or realising that there really are some things that grand cosmic power cannot change. And it has to be a Torchwood story, cause Gwen has already used time technology to save Rhys, at massive cost, and Ianto must have thought about it, when he was trying everything for Lisa, and Torchwood must have learned the hard way as an Institute, or else it never got the Rift manipulator working before. Everyone would get in a real emotional tangle, even if the obvious and necessary answer is that they can't do anything. Because it looks like they could. So, story.
My first draft needs taking to pieces and starting over from scratch with different characters, but I can do that in the holiday.
One more week of Dr Faustus, then two weeks without lessons, to do background reading and study up on Hamlet. I can do Torchwood writing somewhen in there too. Probably.
There's other plot bunnies I should chase up before we get new canon that splats them.
It's weird having such a long wait between seasons and still knowing there will be new canon.
... good, but weird...
... I needed a break to make sad-Weevil noises after 2-06. I need a looooong weevil-woe break after this one.
Sad!
Owen! Tosh!
Toshiko's last words were about Owen both in person and on the video. The video is extra sad cause it hopes for things and we know how it worked out.
It's awkward, because I'm all sad like the scene wants me to be, but I always wished Tosh would just get over it and get confident and the whole thing with Owen never helped with that.
Glowy atomic zombie Owen would be fun.
... not for bystanders, obviously, but aside from that...
The thing with having watched it so many times is I can totally ignore the plot holes and Doesn't Work Like Thats and just get caught up in the sad noise inducing stuff.
Also, Jack freezing Gray is progress compared to Adrift, specially since someone suggests killings and he gets fierce about no killing, but it's not terribly helpful, all in all.
I realised something on this watch I hadn't thought of before. If buried!Jack is on auto defrost then he defrosted during the Year That Never Was. If the Master completely nuked the Hub then buried!Jack would become vaporised!Jack and wake much earlier. If the Master just concrete filled it then buried!Jack would be, well, worse buried. But most likely the Hub was just empty, and buried!Jack had to not cross his own timeline and not get caught and... still have possibilities going on in the background.
... heeeere, bunny bunny bunny...
My main plot bunny after watching 2-13 is the one I writ a first draft of already. There's a plot hole that isn't a plot hole, going on around Owen. They have at least one vortex manipulator that works, the Rift Manipulator that Captain John can apparently steer, and the Doctor's phone number. Why could they not go back for Owen? Well, because the machines saw Owen get glow in the dark and fry. But Owen said 'slowly', so maybe there's a gap between then and actual dead-dead. Also? Owen is a zombie. dead-dead might not happen at all. In which case he's sitting there in the dark being really fucking bored and possibly trying to figure out if he is in fact dead because being alone in the dark is how that was described too. I dislike this idea, yet it nags once it is thought of. So, basically, there's a story to be written that is about *not* using time travel to save someone, and how people can live with themselves about that. And it's a basic Time Agent story, something they've all had to deal with, because time travel involves either destroying the universe or realising that there really are some things that grand cosmic power cannot change. And it has to be a Torchwood story, cause Gwen has already used time technology to save Rhys, at massive cost, and Ianto must have thought about it, when he was trying everything for Lisa, and Torchwood must have learned the hard way as an Institute, or else it never got the Rift manipulator working before. Everyone would get in a real emotional tangle, even if the obvious and necessary answer is that they can't do anything. Because it looks like they could. So, story.
My first draft needs taking to pieces and starting over from scratch with different characters, but I can do that in the holiday.
One more week of Dr Faustus, then two weeks without lessons, to do background reading and study up on Hamlet. I can do Torchwood writing somewhen in there too. Probably.
There's other plot bunnies I should chase up before we get new canon that splats them.
It's weird having such a long wait between seasons and still knowing there will be new canon.
... good, but weird...