Counted Torchwood season 1
Mar. 21st, 2009 10:28 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Have finished counting characters in Torchwood season one. ETA: Went on and finished both, please read completed tables instead /ETA.
I shall do math and draw conclusions. Would be easier if I could remember how to make a table... aha, auto generator to the rescue...
There are 5 regular characters in season 1. They're all speaking parts in every episode.
2 women, 1 person of color.
Minus the regulars, the rest of the speaking parts are:
Percentages
I tried to color code so Green means there's at least the proportion of that group in the episode as in Britain, Orange is it's near enough, and Red is when there's not enough at all.
Since about 1 in 10 people in the UK are people of color then Toshiko all on her own makes up the numbers if there's only 10 speaking parts. If there's up to 20 then there should be one other person. On the whole, Torchwood does fine at this measure.
Average about 17% over the series. Probably. If I can do math.
Since about 5 in 10 people are women, probably, then any time there's less than 40% there's some explaining to do.
You will notice there's a lot of explaining to do.
You will also notice I never had to figure out a color for 'significantly more than 50% women'. It gets as low as 22%, but never higher than 52%. If it were random and symmetrical you'd expect a 78% female episode in there somewhere, but noooo.
Average about 37% over season 1.
There's also 5/13 Bechdel fails, and a lot of pass for only a couple of lines listened to from the right angle. Looking at the percentages and numbers of female characters you can see a lot of why - harder to have conversations when you're just not there. But that doesn't explain why the two series regulars, Tosh and Gwen, so seldom talk, even compared to any two of the men.
Dead characters are harder to count. They often happen in crowds or montages or sepia toned flashbacks. Counting all of them would be a freeze frame job. So I've counted ones that died either on screen or so we get to see their bodies on screen. This count is imperfect.
30 dead people, 10 women, 7 people of color. That's 33% women, and 23% people of color.
Dead characters are not necessarily speaking characters first, which rather messes with comparison math. I'll have another poke at that later and figure out percentage of surviving people of color.
So that's the numbers in a table with color coding.
Pretty. But revealing some problems. More with the gender than race though.
After exam, which I will clearly pass due to all my concentrating and studying and stuff, I will go and count season 2. I wonder if it's better.
ETA: Went on and finished both, please read completed tables instead /ETA.
I shall do math and draw conclusions. Would be easier if I could remember how to make a table... aha, auto generator to the rescue...
Episode | Speaking Characters | Women | People of Color |
1-01 | 20 | 5 | 2 |
1-02 | 18 | 4 | 2 |
1-03 | 18 or 26 | 6 or 8 | 1 |
1-04 | 8 | 4 | 3 |
1-05 | 19 | 10 | 2 |
1-06 | 11 | 4 | 1 |
1-07 | 28 (10+18 minds) | 4+9 minds | 3+2 minds |
1-08 | 11 | 4 | 5 |
1-09 | 17 | 5 | 2 |
1-10 | 16 | 7 | 3 |
1-11 | 11 | 3 | 2 |
1-12 | 15 | 6 | 1 |
1-13 | 15 | 7 | 3 |
There are 5 regular characters in season 1. They're all speaking parts in every episode.
2 women, 1 person of color.
Minus the regulars, the rest of the speaking parts are:
Episode | Speaking Characters | Women | People of Color |
1-01 | 15 | 3 | 1 |
1-02 | 13 | 2 | 1 |
1-03 | 13 or 21 | 4 or 6 | 0 |
1-04 | 3 | 2 | 2 |
1-05 | 14 | 8 | 1 |
1-06 | 6 | 2 | 0 |
1-07 | 23 (5+18 minds) | 2+9 minds | 2+2 minds |
1-08 | 6 | 2 | 4 |
1-09 | 12 | 3 | 1 |
1-10 | 11 | 5 | 2 |
1-11 | 6 | 1 | 1 |
1-12 | 10 | 4 | 0 |
1-13 | 10 | 5 | 2 |
Percentages
Episode | Speaking Characters | Women | People of Color |
1-01 | 20 | 25% | 10% |
1-02 | 18 | 22% | 11% |
1-03 | 18 or 26 | 33% or 30% | 4% or 5% |
1-04 | 8 | 50% | 37.5% |
1-05 | 19 | 52% | 10% |
1-06 | 11 | 36% | 9% |
1-07 | 28 | 46% | 18% |
1-08 | 11 | 36% | 45% |
1-09 | 17 | 29% | 12% |
1-10 | 16 | 44% | 19% |
1-11 | 11 | 27% | 18% |
1-12 | 15 | 40% | 6.6% |
1-13 | 15 | 46% | 20% |
I tried to color code so Green means there's at least the proportion of that group in the episode as in Britain, Orange is it's near enough, and Red is when there's not enough at all.
Since about 1 in 10 people in the UK are people of color then Toshiko all on her own makes up the numbers if there's only 10 speaking parts. If there's up to 20 then there should be one other person. On the whole, Torchwood does fine at this measure.
Average about 17% over the series. Probably. If I can do math.
Since about 5 in 10 people are women, probably, then any time there's less than 40% there's some explaining to do.
You will notice there's a lot of explaining to do.
You will also notice I never had to figure out a color for 'significantly more than 50% women'. It gets as low as 22%, but never higher than 52%. If it were random and symmetrical you'd expect a 78% female episode in there somewhere, but noooo.
Average about 37% over season 1.
There's also 5/13 Bechdel fails, and a lot of pass for only a couple of lines listened to from the right angle. Looking at the percentages and numbers of female characters you can see a lot of why - harder to have conversations when you're just not there. But that doesn't explain why the two series regulars, Tosh and Gwen, so seldom talk, even compared to any two of the men.
Dead characters are harder to count. They often happen in crowds or montages or sepia toned flashbacks. Counting all of them would be a freeze frame job. So I've counted ones that died either on screen or so we get to see their bodies on screen. This count is imperfect.
30 dead people, 10 women, 7 people of color. That's 33% women, and 23% people of color.
Dead characters are not necessarily speaking characters first, which rather messes with comparison math. I'll have another poke at that later and figure out percentage of surviving people of color.
So that's the numbers in a table with color coding.
Pretty. But revealing some problems. More with the gender than race though.
After exam, which I will clearly pass due to all my concentrating and studying and stuff, I will go and count season 2. I wonder if it's better.
ETA: Went on and finished both, please read completed tables instead /ETA.
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Date: 2009-03-22 12:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-22 12:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-22 02:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-22 12:21 pm (UTC)Once I have some time I've got a full set of transcripts and now have noted which speaker is in which group, so I can weight it by word count.
A woman getting lots of screen time is of the good, but the effect if she is surrounded by mostly men is like the effect of repeated Bechdel fail - women exist solely in relation to men, in a world of men, interacting with men. Women need women to interact with in order to portray a world where women have an equal share, exist in relation to other women, and don't go invisible when a man isn't looking at them.
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Date: 2009-04-06 11:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-07 12:37 am (UTC)my longer notes cover the who and how of the Bechdel passes
http://beccaelizabeth.livejournal.com/1730885.html
http://beccaelizabeth.livejournal.com/1746062.html
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Date: 2009-03-22 04:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-22 09:32 am (UTC)It's kind of ironic that I've seen all sorts of kerfuffling over Torchwood being racist but none at all over it being sexist. (Doesn't mean it hasn't happened of course, just that I haven't seen it.)
Best of luck for your exam.
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Date: 2009-03-22 06:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-23 08:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-22 05:27 pm (UTC)I wonder what the ethnic/race breakdown is for Wales specifically.
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Date: 2009-03-22 06:02 pm (UTC)Wiki reckons Cardiff is "Ethnicity 91.57% White, 1.99% Mixed, 3.96% S. Asian, 1.28% Black, 1.20% Chinese or other."
http://www.icar.org.uk/4733/statistics/about-cardiff.html
seems to be Wiki's source and that's the 2001 census figures they're quoting.
So 9/10 white would accurately reflect the ethnic variety of the area.
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Date: 2009-03-22 06:43 pm (UTC)Thanks for looking that up.
Cheers!
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Date: 2009-03-22 06:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-04 08:47 am (UTC)I am given to understand there is a sizable pocket of people from Egypt in Cardiff (god bless Radio 4).
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Date: 2009-03-31 03:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-31 09:06 am (UTC)I can never remember how to do tables.
excellent to see this spread, more data makes arguing much easier
pls comment with a link when you post :-)
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Date: 2009-04-06 02:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-06 04:50 pm (UTC)could you possibly change it to http://beccaelizabeth.livejournal.com/1747350.html the updated two season page?
I have gone and done maths in your comments.
no subject
Date: 2009-04-06 05:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-07 02:38 am (UTC)Comparing the percentages to the national average is, really, meaningless on an episode-by-episode level. There ought to be some variance with averages, since by a completly random sort, the team would not meet a racially and gender balanced roster of people in any given day.
It is useful on a series-by-series level, though, since one hopes the numbers would average out.
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Date: 2009-04-07 12:34 pm (UTC)http://beccaelizabeth.livejournal.com/1747350.html
screen time and sensitivity both have their own effect, but being the only woman or person of color on the screen has an effect all on its own.
comparing percents is meaningful in an analysis of that episode and the effect of the balance in that episode.
Series by series the numbers of women are consistently low, and do not have the kind of variance that would support it being random.
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Date: 2009-04-07 07:03 pm (UTC)Oh, I'm not saying that the percentages as seen on the show are random. Those are born of the assumptions made by writers and producers on what kinds of characters are appropriate to the genre/fans want to see.
What I'm saying is that disproportion on an episode by episode basis isn't necesarily a bad thing, so long as the overall numbers come out more equal. On any random day in my life, the genders and races of the people I meet on the street don't match the national averages. Over a longer span of time, they do approach the averages, however.